To count or not to count?

On August 21, 2012 by Juliet

One would be hard pressed to find an individual in the fitness/nutrition industry who would argue that fat loss is a result of a net caloric deficit. It is. Done. Perhaps the simplest method of achieving this goal is to count calorie and/or macronutrient consumption.  In this way, one can easily determine what of his or her diet “needs” to be altered in order to obtain the desired results. This is, at least, the most commonly utilized method, though the what of people’s diets does dramatically differ from individual to individual (i.e. high fat, low fat, high carb, low carb, moderate protein, high protein, so on and so forth).

I have been doing a lot of thinking and internet scouring on the subject the last few days.  Bros and many professionals I deeply respect alike, seem to believe that the only way to make progress is to track your ‘food metrics’ for lack of a better term.  A quick glance at the Bodybuilding.Com forums and one would believe that there is no other way to exist.

Call me crazy and leave hate comments if you want, but I see some enormous problems with this. (Which is incredibly ironic to me because we spoke a year and a half ago, I would have said everyone needs to weigh, measure, and count their food.)

Food is more than the sum of its parts.

Counting macronutrients does not take into account micronutrient consumption. Vitamins, minerals, and all those other little essential things that keep us going? Yes, they count for your health too. Eating the same foods day in and out will get you the physique you want, and they may even be whole foods, but without that variety you will likely end up woefully deficient in some important things. A hot body is nice, but what good is it if you’re dead or feel like you got hit with a brick?

Moreover, lets say you do get a variety and manage to track both macros & micros: no two foods are created equal. The numbers you read online or on food labels? They are, at best, educated guesses.  Additionally, foods all interact with our bodies differently. It is virtually impossible to determine how available all those micro/macronutrients are to you and how you will utilize them to a T. This, to me, is one of the bigger issues with counting macros. What’s the point of counting guesses?

Counting can hurt the soul.

I will concede one concept: weighing/measuring/counting is a really fabulous learning tool. For an individual who has never learned proper portion control or never seen what 4 oz of chicken looks like, it is a great way to educate. That said, I do not think it is a good tool to start an individual with full time as it is very easy to get ‘hooked’ on the numbers nor is it sustainable for many.

Some simply can not handle the tediousness of it while others are just plain lazy. They may count for a little while, but they eventually fall off the bandwagon with this attitude of “well I can’t take counting so I am just going to go back to how I ate before.”This leaves them back at square one.  There has to be some kind of transition into living to make it sustainable or, better yet, teaching a sustainable lifestyle from the beginning.

People need to learn how to eat on their own, like humans. We are not dogs or robots. We are people with lives and families and jobs.

Moreover, I get emails, almost weekly, from women with poor relationships with food. I know men who are right there with them. Hell, just start reading some of the blogs around the blog-o-sphere. Poor relationships with our bodies and food is running rampant in today’s society. In more cases than not with counting, our food ends up consuming us instead of we, it.

NOTE: Of course there are many folks who thrive on counting and have done so for years without problem. They recognize when enough is enough or when counting can suck it. To you, I say, “Kudos!”

Food is so much more than ‘fuel’.

When I first read this book, I thought Pollan was an a**hole because he, very eloquently I might add, tore my lifestyle apart.  I believe he called the concept Nutritionism. Now? I believe he was spot on. Hindsight is 20/20, they say.

Food is something we use to celebrate, to socialize, to bond with family members and new friends. It is cultural and beautiful.  Yes, eating the right foods at the perfect times will fuel your finely tuned machine, but I believe you can be ‘fueled’ just as efficiently by simply eating real whole foods when you are hungry. We managed for thousands of years without knowing precisely what we were eating and every other animal on the planet seems to be doing just fine without that information, as well.

Of course we all overeat from time to time. However, I have found that, that restrictive counting mentality leads us to really overdo it.

Eat until you hurt, overdo it. Lose control, overdo it.

You may be able to maintain your physique because you fast for 800 hours a week or strictly control your diet when you aren’t massively bingeing… but what about learning to just eat.  It’s amazing how changing your frame of mind can alter your behavior.

See THIS POST for my thoughts on how to achieve fat loss without losing your marbles. I have more thoughts on the subject when applying it to people who want to get ‘ZOMG SHREDDED’, but that is for another time.

  • Skiezik

    Love the article and I totally agree with you. Let’s say your goal is to gain muscle. How do you know if you are eating enough calories to support your goals?

    • http://heyjoob.com Juliet

      Is that a rhetorical question or did you want an answer? :)

  • http://sweatanddirt.wordpress.com/ Erika

    This. Is. Fantastic.

    • http://heyjoob.com Juliet

      You. Are. Fantastic.

  • http://www.sweatlikeapig.com/ Tara @ Sweat like a Pig

    My thoughts are so in line with yours that it’s scary!

    • http://heyjoob.com Juliet

      I feel like we’ve both come so far as…well… individuals AND bloggers! I think if we’re both heading to the same conclusion from across an ocean or two, we must obvi be right. Dur.

  • http://www.onefitfoodie.com/ Naomi(onefitfoodie)

    YUP couldn’t have said it better myself. If you can count calories…KUDOS! I cannot tell you the amount of comments and questions I get asking me how many calories a day I am taking in. I honestly and whole heartedly have NO FREAKIN IDEA! I go by portions. Portion contorl works for me and always has especially when dieting for a show. If I had to count calories, I think I would rather jump off a bridge into a shallow pool-seriously. WOOF

    and we all know how I feel about ‘healthy living bloggers’ these days…double woof

    fabulous post, lady! come back to boston!!!

    • http://heyjoob.com Juliet

      I love how you say “woof” because it so wonderfully expresses the sentiments you are feeling.

  • Kate Emmenegger

    What are your thoughts on bulking? I find that if I don’t track during this bulk that I am doing, then I don’t get enough food. :/ I don’t want to obsessively count though, because it’s driving me nuts! All I think about is what I am going to eat to meet my calorie requirements. Any advice or personal experience with bulking? Thanks!

    • http://heyjoob.com Juliet

      I have never actually ‘bulked’ per se, so my answer may need some wiggle room.

      I would think that, when trying to add on mass, you would need to be even less worried about specific macros? Eat a big effing hunk of protein with every meal, a bunch of vegetables, throw some fat in there to make it satiating, and large dose of carbs after you workout. If you get fat, cut back on some of those things. If you don’t see any change, just keep adding more. If you gain muscle, GOOD WORK!

      Now, I realize I wrote this all out in terms of macronutrients. I probably should have said this in the post… I don’t think macronutrients are worth throwing out the window entirely. A basic understand of ‘what is a carb’, ‘what foods are high in each of the macros’, etc. is very important.

      I just think there is a difference between knowing a sweet potato is high in carbs so you eat one after training and weighing it out so you have exactly 200.0 g (and then writing down in your log book how many carbs that equates to)

  • http://www.followingfit.com/ Kristen @ Following Fit

    I was a counter. I still kind of am, despite my lack of an actual food log. But even though I count things in my head (more like portions, not totals), it’s mostly to make sure I’m eating enough. Carbs especially — if I just dumped a bunch of roasted sweet potatoes on a plate, it’d be too little. I’m always surprised by how much I really need. So I don’t know what I’m really saying here — I don’t think I’ll ever be a full-blown counter again, but I still measure things, so I guess I still count anyway. LOL.

    • http://heyjoob.com Juliet

      I was a counter too :)

      I know what you mean, though, and that’s not precisely what I’m talking about. I think it is entirely necessary to understand and implement portion control, for smaller or larger portions. While no two foods may be identical, 6 oz of steak is still 6 oz of steak and won’t be any more or less appropriate. For those of us who are former counters, that may or may not equate to x grams of protein and y grams of fat in our heads – and that’s fine.

      Ball parking macros in your head generally doesn’t make people nuts and is, to me, not too much different than using the palm/fist/handful portion guide lines. It’s the mentality that you *need* to count and track to get results that makes my skin crawl.

    • http://heyjoob.com Juliet

      I think I answered this more eloquently in the comment above…. LOL

  • Erica_StuffIMakeMyHusband

    ZOMGYES. ALL OF THIS.

    “The numbers you read online or on food labels? They are, at best, educated guesses.”

    Yep yep…and I would also add, calories burned charts and BMR calculators are reeeeally rough estimates as well.

    I hate the overly simplistic calories in/calories out argument. I mean, sure, as a benchmark it makes sense, and if you’re legitimately overweight or obese it’s pretty easy to create a deficit with those estimates. But when you’re already lean AND you want to fuel physical activity, there’s so little margin of error.

    • http://heyjoob.com Juliet

      Yes. I think the problem with the estimates is really more of an issue for lean individuals than obese. I would think it particularly unnecessary to count for very overweight and obese individuals to count as they do have more caloric wiggle room.

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  • http://teabagginit.com/ Tianna

    “foods are not created equal” – so true! to think that we can simply count calories is to believe that our bodies are bomb calorimeters and they are most certainly not! the calories in a twinkie (or weight watchers lemon cake – see, I remember your posts!) and the calories in a sweet potato are not treated the same even though carb counts/calories might be similar!
    that’s the main point I’m taking from Paleo experimentation – QUALITY matters! I wouldn’t water my plants with chemicals, why would I put them in my body? (except for froyo, of course – that sh*t is delicious chemical-y goodness!)

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